Interview with Johnny Day

What's going on?! It is Adam. Welcome back to bringing it backwards. A podcast where both legendary and rising artists tell their own personal stories of how they achieve stardom. On this episode, we had a chance to hang out with Johnny Day over zoom video. Johnny was born and raised in a small town in Colorado, and he talks about how he got into music. He got his first guitar at 12 years old. He got it for Christmas, from his mom and just became obsessed with it. Since the day he got it. His mom actually worked with someone that had a cover band. So Johnny joined this cover band at like 13 years old, and these guys were in their fifties and he played with them for a while until he realized he wanted to write his own music and perform his own songs. 3 (1m 56s): From there, he joined a band, did that for a little bit of time, actually had some success with one of the songs that he wrote with a friend of his and ended up winning a contest on the radio in, in Colorado and was getting played all across the state. That was a big validating moment for him. And he also realized at that point he wanted to move to Nashville and be songwriter. He talks about meeting somebody over the internet that asked if he ever goes to Nashville. And he's like, yeah, sure, never had been there. He tells the story about going to Nashville for the first time meeting with these people and ever since was traveling back and forth and eventually just moved, moved to Nashville to pursue his dream. And he also talks to us about his brand new song, which is called every beer. 3 (2m 37s): Every bar you can watch our interview with Johnny on our Facebook page and YouTube channel at bringing it backwards. It would be awesome if you subscribe to our channel like us on Facebook and follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and TOK at bringing back pod. And if you're listening to this on Spotify, apple music, Google podcasts would be awesome. If you follow us there as well and hook us up with a five-star review, 4 (3m 0s): We'd appreciate your support. If you follow and subscribe to our podcasts, wherever you listen to podcasts, 3 (3m 6s): We're bringing it backwards with Johnny Day. Are you in Nashville? Is that what I saw? 5 (3m 11s): Yeah. Yeah, 3 (3m 12s): Of course. I'm south of Nashville as well. 5 (3m 15s): Oh, nice. Where at? 3 (3m 16s): I'm down near Franklin Thompson station. 5 (3m 20s): Oh yeah. Like kind of down past Brentwood and everything. 3 (3m 23s): Yeah, exactly. I got two kids. I got to get in the burbs man 5 (3m 29s): Where I'm at T 3 (3m 30s): Oh really? 5 (3m 31s): Yeah. Well I'm in Hendersonville, but I'm in, in the burbs. 3 (3m 36s): Very cool, man. Well, I moved here from California. I did see that you're from Colorado. We'll talk about that. And I love your new song, man. I was just listening to it a few minutes ago. 5 (3m 45s): Aw, thanks to you. I appreciate it. Yeah. 3 (3m 49s): Cool. Well, I'm Adam and this is about you and your journey and music. And we'll talk about the new record as well. 5 (3m 56s): Nice to meet you, Adam. 3 (3m 58s): Nice to meet you. So from Colorado, is that what I saw? 5 (4m 2s): Yeah. Colorado. 3 (4m 3s): What part of Colorado? 5 (4m 5s): So I grew up in Kurzy, but it's kind over by Greeley where the Greeley stampede is. So she's a little cow town, man. I graduated with like ADB bull, so, 3 (4m 15s): Oh my gosh. Yeah. It was 5 (4m 17s): Crazy. It was a tiny town, tiny town. So 3 (4m 21s): People in your graduating class? 5 (4m 23s): Yeah. Yeah, it was a little, 3 (4m 25s): So I had 1200 kids in my graduating class. 5 (4m 29s): 1200. 3 (4m 30s): Yeah, just in my senior class. I 5 (4m 33s): Was like my whole school. 3 (4m 35s): It was the, honestly it was the biggest graduating class, I think in San Diego ever. Cause then they opened up like multiple high schools after the fact. So it was just like a, this area I was from just started to really grow. And then they're like, didn't know what to do. So to build a bunch of schools. But anyway, that's just crazy 80 people. I'm just trying to like, imagine how small that is. 5 (4m 58s): Everyone knew everyone, man. It was crazy. Everybody knew everybody and yeah, you couldn't, you didn't have any secrets. 3 (5m 5s): I was going to say, yeah, I mean, growing up there, like you must've just grown up with all those kids. Right. I mean, like you said, you know, everybody's so like 80 kids where you, I mean, how did they split up like elementary school, middle school and high school? Or is it the same kids going through all those grades together? 5 (5m 25s): Yeah. So basically it was middle school or elementary, middle school, K to five and elementary, you know, 6, 7, 8, then middle school and then, you know, nine through 12. 3 (5m 37s): But it was the same elementary school kids fed into all into the same middle school, which I'll get into the Wow. So we had like multiple elementary schools would then feed into one or two middle schools that would all feed into then one high school. That's why I was trying to follow like that's yeah. Just like you. So you literally grew up with the same kids from K through 12. 5 (6m 0s): Oh yeah. Wow. Yeah, my wife actually, and I went to kindergarten together and graduated together. Oh 3 (6m 7s): Wow. High school sweethearts. 5 (6m 9s): No, we never dated in high school. Huh? It was, it was kind of funny how it happened, but yeah, we, I known her ever since kindergarten. It's crazy. 3 (6m 17s): So it's so funny. That's amazing though. 5 (6m 20s): Yeah. It's crazy. Crazy. I wasn't expecting that, but 3 (6m 23s): Yeah. Did you guys move to get, did you get married in the move to Nashville together or did you reconnect once you were already out here? 5 (6m 34s): So we got married and moved out here. Like I think we got married in December, 2018 and then we're out here by April. 3 (6m 45s): Oh wow. So quick. 5 (6m 47s): It was quick. It was 3 (6m 48s): Cool. 5 (6m 50s): It was good. The housing market. Wasn't crazy then. So 3 (6m 53s): <inaudible> got it 5 (6m 56s): Early. So 3 (6m 58s): Yeah, we got here just before it went like absurd. So, but that's, that's so cool. So real quick, I guess, going back, when did you get into music? Did you have a musical household at all? Parents play any instruments? 5 (7m 12s): Well, my grandparents both played piano, so that was kind of, you know, my, my sister kinda messed around with the piano when I was like five or six, I listened to her. I thought it was always pretty cool. And then, you know, I, I was a little kid, so I just go on, hop on and just start banging and keys, just like any other kid and just making a Megan a bunch of ruckus. But my mom, she bought me a guitar when I was 12 for Christmas. And then she got me into a cover band when I was like a couple months after that she had worked with a guy that was, he was like 50 or so. And he, you know, they did a cover band and they'd play for like four hours, you know, they'd get together every week, play together for four hours, just like, they'd play a show. 5 (7m 54s): And then, yeah. So I got going on that and they gave me all the old charts and before I knew it, I was playing lead guitar. Cause you know, the singer, his name was Tom cable and old guy, old guy. He was like 53 when I met him and I was like 13, I'm just this little kid, you know, 3 (8m 11s): With all 5 (8m 11s): These old guys. And they're probably going to get mad at me for calling them old. The, they were dead 3 (8m 18s): 40 plus years. Realistically. That is, yeah, they were 13. You're like, oh God, this guy's like Jurassic. And he's only in his fifties 5 (8m 27s): And he's like five foot seven. 3 (8m 31s): Sure. 5 (8m 32s): So yeah, I got, I got going on that and man, I just got addicted to playing guitar and, but before I knew it, I was, you know, playing lead guitar and I was 13 years old. So I kind of became the kid in town that was known as the guitar player kid, you know, that's all I did. I had like long hair, you know, I was all into classic rock and yeah, I was that guy for, you know, growing up and just playing and then blatant a couple bands started writing songs and I was about 16, 17. And cause I was like, man, how can you make any money off this? You know like, Hey that, well, you know, 3 (9m 10s): Yeah. I just want to back up real quick for a second here. So you've got the guitar at 12. And you said a couple of months after that, that's when your mom connected you with these people that had the cover band. 5 (9m 21s): Yeah. 3 (9m 22s): So how quickly, I mean, were you just playing constantly and then she was like, you should play them. Like, I mean to, to learn that quickly, I mean, you must've been just been that's all you were doing. 5 (9m 34s): Oh, I was obsessed. It's all about, yeah. It was one of those things where I, you know, you know how they say you go to the bathroom, do your guitar. That was me. I always, man, I always addicted. So it was constant, man. I'd go to school. You know, I was thinking about songs drawn out guitars and man, I think back to those times and it was, so it was such a, it was just like, I, there was so much growth and so much excitement and inspiration in my life because man, I was just, I've never felt that much joy from something, you know? Cause it was, you know, to get good at something like it's hard. Cause it's painful at first, if you've ever. Yeah. You know, when you first started playing guitar, it's like, Hey hurts. 5 (10m 14s): So 3 (10m 15s): And Hertz. Right? I mean your finger, you gotta get callouses over 'em and then like, just like I can play guitar, but I'm not good, but I can play chords and everything. But just thinking back to like, even when I was learning, like how bad I was that like even playing like just the power chords or standard chords, like how bad it sounded and just listen, just thinking about that. Now you just brought me back to that moment where like I was in my room doing that and my parents must've just been like, oh my God, like this kid is atrocious. Like, you know, like they just dealt with it. And it's just funny how that is. 5 (10m 51s): Yeah. That's probably why my mom got me in that band. So, 3 (10m 54s): So she's like, all right. Yeah. You can go play with these guys. So actually for awhile, how did she know these people in the band? 5 (11m 3s): So she worked with delete singer supers. So it worked out, it was man, it was incredible how it all fell into place. But yeah, she met him and they were always good friends and they just like, I literally, I went over there. I didn't even have an electric guitar at the time. I just had a little, well, I had a little acoustic that they'd just bought me. And then I had like a Kmart electric guitar. Right. And then the acoustic guitar to have a mic, nothing on it. So I just go over there with that and they're like laughing at me, you know, 3 (11m 30s): They're just plugged in and 5 (11m 32s): Jamming out with their amps and all this stuff and it's louder. Oh my gosh. They played so loud when I think back to it. But yeah, as they were just laughing at me. So not long after that, my mom got me another guitar. Thank goodness for my mother and my dad. They were both super supportive. They man, they bought me so many guitars. I still have some of the guitars they bought me. Do you 3 (11m 51s): Have that first one you got when you were 12? Oh, 5 (11m 54s): It got stolen. It got to my ex-girlfriend and any that, she said it got stolen out of her trunk, but it was kind of after she, we broke up when she told me that. So who knows? She might have found 3 (12m 7s): It. There's 5 (12m 10s): A black little Epiphone. Les Paul. It's just those black ones. You can get them for like 300 bucks. I know a couple of guys that have them, but a 3 (12m 18s): Yeah, I had one of those and I actually got stolen too. So maybe she stole it. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah. No, that sucks. So that was your first. That was the one that your mom bought you at 12? 5 (12m 33s): Yeah, that was the first one. Well, I guess second that was like my guitar guitar, but she'd bought me like, you know, she got me like a K-Mart guitar. I played the heck out of that thing. I, you know, when you're first starting, I didn't know anything either. I'm just sitting there putting my fingers down, like almost, you know, it was like banging on the piano, just putting it wherever, just trying to figure out something cool. And then I found like ultimate guitar online. Cause they'd just 3 (12m 58s): Tabs. 5 (12m 59s): Yeah. We had dial up internet and I was like, and so I sat there and waited like 10 minutes for that page to load, but it did. And I got like green day to come up. I think it was I basket case or something and I apparently 3 (13m 13s): Dead 5 (13m 15s): Brain Stu dude, I man, I played that song on Revie. I was like, wow. You know, I was like, I'm doing it finally. Like 3 (13m 24s): I'm 5 (13m 24s): Coming out of this thing. So once that happened, oh dude, it was, 3 (13m 28s): It was over. 5 (13m 29s): It was over. I couldn't stop. I couldn't. And still to this day, you know, I'm, I'm literally playing guitar right before I hopped on. I was actually, I'm doing some sideman stuff. So I've been cramming through sets and I'm still doing the same thing and I'm 28. 3 (13m 43s): That's cool. Yeah. Well, you said you started writing songs in 16 ish. 5 (13m 50s): Yeah. 16, 17 is when I started writing. 3 (13m 53s): What was the, what changed? Like, I mean, obviously you were playing with how long and how long did you play with these guys? Like discover band? Was that something that you did for a long time? 5 (14m 2s): I played with them until I was about a sophomore in high school. 3 (14m 5s): So around that time 5 (14m 7s): It was about three, three years. Three, four years. And then yeah, I kind of started getting into music and then I met this lead singer. His name was Josh Scheer and he's actually, he still has a band called pandas and people that we started together and he was really in writing, you know, and he wanted to write stuff and get it on the radio. And he was, he kind of introduced me to like the whole recording session world. And, and so yeah, I started writing songs with him and we wrote, he was a lot older than me too. He was about man, when I met him, I think he was a senior in college and I'm just like, you know, I was a sophomore in high school. 3 (14m 43s): He's going to be like 21, 22. 5 (14m 46s): We went out and partied with them too. And those parties cause he was out at CSU to Fort Collins and actually, so there's this one time it was a crazy party. The cops got called and we actually started a band because it was like called flash bang or whatever. Cause the house got flash bang, 3 (15m 4s): Flash bang, 5 (15m 6s): Like flash bang. Like when they, the cops toss in like a flash bang and it blows up in the house and like, it makes out sound and you get kind of peppered 3 (15m 16s): Heard of this 5 (15m 17s): Crazy man. I could not. And there was like a cop sitting out on the porch and they had like this, you know, old Tron voicing come out of the house and we're like, I'm like 14. I'm like, what is going on right now? Yeah. It was a party, but you know, he'd done. So I can't really talk about what he did. 3 (15m 33s): Some bad 5 (15m 34s): Stuff. 3 (15m 35s): Yeah. So they didn't show up for the party. That's that's the point and 5 (15m 40s): It would've been cool if they did, especially. 3 (15m 42s): Oh see, I thought the party was going that like it was rocking that hard that they 5 (15m 46s): Was rocking that hard, 3 (15m 48s): But I mean to throw a thing, to stop it. Right. A flash bang. Okay. So that was a, that was a different story line, but that you were at, at the party when it happened. 5 (15m 58s): So that's kind of, so I kind of, I was like the first time I met him too. 3 (16m 1s): And, 5 (16m 3s): And he was cool, man. He was just one of those people you get around. It's like, you know, everyone loves him, just super cool guy. And I was just like, you know, I was like, man, yeah, let's write some songs. You know, I was, I was in it. And so we wrote this song together. It's called all my way. And I think I was about 18 was either I think I might've been in high school. I might've just graduated, but he got on it. Wasn't like this radio competition in Colorado and was spinning on the radio. Oh 3 (16m 27s): Wow. 5 (16m 28s): We went in the studio and did that all together. Like I played all the ganja parts, all the acoustic guitar and like programmed a bunch of stuff and wrote it with him and we put it out and then where it, you know, won that competition. So we're like, dude, we got to start like a band. Cause we got to play a show for this thing. Right. That's kind of how that band started. And yeah, ever since then, man, I, I D I did some side gig and stuff like some sideman stuff, but I loved it. It was a folk band too. It was like folky pop con type deal. But I was in the country. I mean, I was always in the country, Brad Paisley. I saw Brad Paisley when I was a junior in high school on YouTube and he was just ripping it and singing, playing lead guitar. 5 (17m 10s): And I'm like, oh yeah, 3 (17m 13s): That's, that's what you wanted to do. Sure. 5 (17m 15s): I'm doing so. Yeah. And that's what got me into the oil field actually. So because I also have that guitar in that amp, 3 (17m 22s): You know, so you started working so I could 5 (17m 25s): Get that to get that equipment. Yeah. Like guitar. And so yeah, I did that. And, 3 (17m 31s): Wow. So you got a job in the oil field just to pay for the guitar that Brad Paisley had. Yeah, 5 (17m 36s): Exactly. 3 (17m 37s): Oh my gosh. How long did it take you to get it? 5 (17m 41s): And it didn't, well, my first oil field job, I was making like 13 bucks an hour. So, but I worked constantly says a couple of months and then the amp, you know, I, one of the Z wrecks roll, all the guitar nerds out there that, you know, no Brad Paisley and the doctors see racks or thing. And I got that to sit at that final bill was like nine, 10 grand just for a guitar. And I was like 19 too, you know? So I was just out of high school and I was, oh man. And then I got it. And I started playing it and I'm like, pissing is so freaking loud. I cannot play it in my house. I like it was because those, those directs don't have a master volume. 3 (18m 18s): It's just, I ended 5 (18m 19s): Up selling it after, unfortunately, just because I needed to get some different stuff, you know? But 3 (18m 24s): Yeah. We keep the guitar though. 5 (18m 26s): Oh yeah. I still got it. It's it's right there. 3 (18m 29s): Oh, 5 (18m 29s): Wow. 3 (18m 33s): Okay. Now I can see it 5 (18m 37s): Daily. So yeah. That's how it got started. 3 (18m 42s): That's cool. And then, so at what point, I mean, obviously you moved to Nashville and you said in 2018, like what took you there? Were you writing songs and just said, Hey, like I know I need to be a natural or was like, was there another validating moment for you as a songwriter that made you decide like, this is really what I want to do to, to leave your town to go there. You know, obviously you won the thing on the radio that must've been a pretty big moment as far as like a validating thing happening. But was it from that, that you knew that you could, you could do it. 5 (19m 15s): Yeah, honestly. Yeah. You hit it right on the dot I was, I, we wrote that song and then I was like, man, you know, I can actually maybe do this, you know? And so I started writing country songs and I was in the oil field at the time I was working nights. And so I'd just be out there at night. Right. And songs and the oil patch. And it was like a seven on seven off type of schedule. So I'd, I'd be up all night writing songs. And then I put out how many songs I put on. I think I put out like three or four songs back when I was in Colorado. I found a studio, Colorado sounds. And I knew the engineer there and he cut me a deal and let me record the whole thing in his basement. And it, and it actually to man, I go back and I listen to it and I'm like, wow, that actually wasn't bad. 5 (20m 1s): I didn't spend any money on that. And so yeah, I did that and put it out on, you know, the YouTubes and the Instagrams and all that stuff. And then I had a guy by the name of Jeff Davis. He contacted me on Instagram, was like, Hey man, you ever come to town, you know, you ever been to Nashville? And I'm like, oh yeah. I come out all the time. At least like once a month. And I had never been 3 (20m 24s): There <inaudible> 5 (20m 31s): Itself. I was like, Hey, here's my opportunity. Cause he's, you know what I'm saying? And you can get in the room with all these great songwriters and all this stuff and come out here and have coffee with us. And you know, we'd love to work with you. So I did, I just booked a ticket and flew out. I stayed at the man with the red roof Inn over by guitar center. Like on your way. 3 (20m 51s): Yeah. On, on BRAF Brentwood in Berlin dude. Okay. Right off 65. I know exactly where that off 5 (20m 57s): 65, I, that I got to town, I stayed in that I had no idea where I was, you know, I'd got off the airplane and took an Uber. That was the cheapest hotel I could find. 3 (21m 6s): Right. Which isn't very close to the airport. That's not from Nashville. 5 (21m 11s): Exactly. Yeah. Well, I had the cheapest, you know, I was like, because man, I was like, holy, this is going to cost me a fortune coming. So yeah, I did that. I met him over at the, I forgot the name of the coffee shop, but 3 (21m 26s): You look like you knew what you're doing coming there and singing Brentwood. Cause you could have been like, yeah, I'm in Brentwood. And then they would have been like, oh, okay. Solid 5 (21m 35s): North. 3 (21m 36s): Yeah. You're like, man, you know, wherever. But like just again for people that don't know Nashville, Brentwood is like where a lot of big country stars live. You know what I mean? So yeah. So like you being there is funny enough to the word you, if you were talking with songwriters or people would, they'd be like, oh that's cool. Like, okay. You're like, it would kind of check off one of the marks of like, oh yeah, he knows what he's doing. 5 (22m 5s): Price. 3 (22m 6s): Sure. That's so funny. 5 (22m 8s): Yeah. It was crazy. And yeah. So I met him and went over there and talked to him and I was like, all right. Yeah. So I started working with them and I was flying out to Nashville every month, once a month and writing songs, you know, I started doing that back in, it was like 2018. I think that's when I started doing that. And so yeah, I was working in the oil field then and then kind of how it just metastasized is my wife and I got married and then I, and we, you know, we already had a mirror, my daughter. And so we, we got a house out in Nashville, but I kept my job in Colorado cause it was an eight on six off schedule. 5 (22m 51s): So I was just flying back and forth every week. 3 (22m 54s): Okay. 5 (22m 54s): So that's how the whole oil field things still had played into the story to this day. Cause I was still running back and forth every Wednesday and work. So I'd worked for eight days, come home, you know, do the whole artist thing and then go back to work and then 3 (23m 8s): You gotta do what you gotta do. 5 (23m 10s): And it was, it's been great. Honestly, I, I was doing that up until April of this year. So I'm like on my first, like I'm doing it now. So 3 (23m 19s): Wow. So now is when you're just doing music full-time 5 (23m 22s): And music, full-time all and all kinds of things, you know, I'm doing music full-time and it's crazy. It's man. It's incredible. It's like, you know, I always tell people too, you know, it's like, you know, you don't eat for awhile and then you finally eat some food. 3 (23m 40s): Like, 5 (23m 41s): Wow, this is nice. I'm not like getting on a plane. Like I'm staying in my house today or this week. So it's like, it's pretty cool. All right. 3 (23m 50s): Awesome. 5 (23m 51s): Yeah, man. 3 (23m 52s): That's cool. So you, once you get here and you start riding with people, I'm like, tell me about then do you put out a song that you kind of had to co-write with other people or where you, are you kind of in the, like, like the publishing side of things too? Like, are you writing with people for, to pitch it other artists or is it mainly just for your own project? 5 (24m 13s): Mostly just writing for my own project, mostly, you know, I get in rooms where I'll, you know, we'll write a song and you know, we might give it to somebody else where, you know, I just doesn't vibe with it. You know, you know how it goes. 3 (24m 25s): I was just curious. Cause I know you that you had a, an artist on this new song coming out and I, from just the research I was doing, he works with Warner chapel. Who's a publishing company out here who, you know, so I didn't know if you were in involved in that at all either. Like, cause I think more than chapel's mainly for songwriters to what pitched other artists, right? 5 (24m 46s): Correct. Correct. Correct. Yeah. And Zach he's, he's awesome. He's doing the boat boys thing too and all that, but so how that situation came about was when COVID hit, you know, everything got shut down. So my manager and I, Tyler Miller, we were just networking, networking, networking, and taking meetings with, you know, anyone and everyone, you know, you're having coffee with everybody and doing zooms and whatever we could do. And so we actually ended up doing a lot of networking through our church, the Hills out in Bellevue. And that's how we met Jared Ingram. And cause he was playing drums at the Hills and he's a songwriter, he's a part of the seven 20 at Warner chapel Inside with them. 5 (25m 32s): Just like, I think right around when COVID hit right before. And so yeah, we started talking to him and then I had sent him a song I had cut because it was just like, I got this weird feeling in my gut. I was like, man, I'm just gonna shoot this song over to Jared and see what he thinks he was, he called me and we talked for like two hours and he's like, and he was like one of those guys where I was like, man, this is, you know, he's the real deal right here, man. He's the real deal. And so we talked and he's like, yeah, man, we should get together and find some songs and maybe dip into my catalog and dip into your catalog and we'll put together a project and see what we could do. 5 (26m 16s): And so that's when the seven 20 started producing me and I got into a production deal with them. Zach was write songs with them all the time. And so he, he was on every beer, every bar. And so I just met Zach through passing, talking to them and I had heard a bunch of these demos with his voice on it too. And I was like, man, this guy can sing like this is, I love his boys. So when it came around to do this song, it was like, man, this is a, this would be awesome to have Zach on this song because he's just, I love his voice, you know? He's fantastic. So it was an easy, it wasn't easy, big that's kinda, it was, it was pretty natural how it happened. Honestly, people ask you, how do you get features on a song? 5 (26m 59s): And it's just one of those things where it's like, man, you just gotta be out there doing it. And it just happens. So 3 (27m 5s): Yeah. So that's good. So that's where, okay. That's how you got hit me. And he would help co-write the song with you. 5 (27m 12s): Yeah. Yeah. Well, so I wasn't a rider on this song. So this one was, this was Zach Morgan Morgan Evans, and then a couple more. 3 (27m 19s): Okay. 5 (27m 20s): So 3 (27m 21s): You just loved the song enough to go on to cut it. Yeah, 5 (27m 23s): Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. We heard the song and I was like, man, this is, this is like my life. 3 (27m 30s): Right. 5 (27m 31s): I was like 15. 3 (27m 35s): I was 5 (27m 35s): Mad. I was like, if you want to get into it, that's where my story gets a little crazy. Cause I was a wild child, man. I was wild back in my younger days. My younger days when I should've been like only playing guitar, you 3 (27m 46s): Know? So 5 (27m 47s): Yeah, that's it, like I heard that song and it took me back and I was like, wow, man, this is like everything I tried to do. Like this could really relate to a lot of people and I'm like, this is, this is a great song. And so yeah, we ended up cutting it. I'm super proud of it. And I think it came out really good. So 3 (28m 8s): Yeah. I think it sounds awesome. And then it's released, released a, in like a week or so right then a week from Friday or so. Yeah. That's amazing. And are you doing shows in Nashville or yeah. 5 (28m 20s): Yeah. So I'm doing a bump man. I got a bunch of stuff coming up. I'm doing a bunch of side gigs stuff, side man stuff. 3 (28m 26s): When you say sideman stuff, is that like, you're getting hired on to play guitar with another band. 5 (28m 30s): Exactly. I like Tim Cody. He's another artist in town. He's a good friend of mine. And so I'm just doing some sideman stuff for him and kind of brushing up on my chops since I got out of the oil field. Yeah. Getting some, some dust off the old fingers and getting my endurance back up. But I'm also doing some stuff at like the opera land, doing some corporate stuff and a 3 (28m 50s): Cool 5 (28m 51s): Doing some three piece power trio singing some of my songs singing some covers. So yeah, man, we don't have any like hard, hard dates yet coming, but really the focus is just pushing this song pusher along. So yeah. 3 (29m 6s): It's super exciting. Yeah, man. Well, I thank you so much Johnny for doing this today. I appreciate it. 5 (29m 12s): I appreciate you, man. This has been been a blast. 3 (29m 15s): I've had a lot of fun and I love, I love the tune and I can't wait to see where, where it goes when it comes out here on Friday or Friday, when people hear this, it'll probably be out. So I should just say it's right. 5 (29m 29s): It's out every bit more it's out man. Go stream it. 3 (29m 34s): Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Well, I have one more quick question. I want to know if you have any advice for aspiring artists, 5 (29m 40s): Aspiring artists. My advice is just be true to yourself. You know, I'm sure everyone, they always tell you that just go with your gut and be true to yourself, but also, you know, no you are and who you want to be, but don't be afraid to take advice and grow too, because that's a big thing is you get out here and there's a lot of great musicians, especially in Nashville. That's what, probably one of my biggest things moved to Nashville because that's where it's happening. You know, that's what I tell all my buddies that are out in Colorado. I'm like, dude, what are you doing, man? You need to come to Nashville. Like you just got, this is I tell people that all the time, I'm like, if you want to be in the oil field. Cause you know, I was in the oil field, go to where the oil field is, you know like in Texas or Colorado or you know, wherever you want to. 5 (30m 22s): And, and if you want to be in music, if you want to do music, you got to come and be in LA and where it's going down. So I think that's honestly, one of the biggest battles is just getting out here and then once you get here, you know, wherever you go, just be good to everybody. And you know, it's, it's, it's honestly not a competition with them. It's really you just trying to, out to beat yourself, to beat your last performance. That's the big, that's what I always tell myself. It's like, I'm not really trying to compete with anyone. I'm just trying to be better than I was last time, you know, every single time. And as long as you serve the crowd and love the crowd and don't get self-conscious or stuck in your own head, man, you're going to kill it. So that's what I tell them.