Interview with The Haunt

Hello! It is Adam. Welcome back to bringing it backwards. A podcast where both legendary and rising artists tell their own personal stories of how they achieve stardom. 0 (1m 31s): On this episode, we had a chance to hang out with siblings, Anastasia and max of the ban. The haunt over zoom video, max is three years older than Anastasia, and they both got into music, obviously the same way their parents were a big music fans involved in the local music scene in Florida. And they put both max and Anastasia in piano lessons at an early age. When they found out that Anastasia can really sing, they put her in voice lessons at the same time, max was kind of learning guitar and he still played the piano. 4 (2m 8s): When Anastasia started doing her first shows, she played different coffee shops. She had such bad stage fright that she had max sit on the stage with her. He would just sit there. They did about five shows that way. And it was kind of like, well, why don't we just have you in the band? We'll start a band. So they've always really played together. They talked about playing legit shows with their own music when Anastasia was just 12 and max was 15, they did two huge European tours while Anastasia was still in high school. I think she was a sophomore in high school, and they're going to Europe touring touring the full United States. So we hear about that where they were in the pandemic hit all about their recent EAP, social intercourse, the new music they have coming out. 4 (2m 48s): And this huge tour they're doing with the who you can watch our interview with max in Anastasia on our Facebook page and YouTube channel app, bringing it backwards. It would be awesome if you subscribe to our channel like us on and follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Tik TOK at bringing back pod. And if you're listening to this on Spotify or apple music, it'd be amazing if you follow suit as well and hook us up with a five-star review. 5 (3m 11s): We'd appreciate your support. If you follow and subscribe to our podcasts, wherever you listen to podcasts, 4 (3m 17s): We're bringing it backwards with the hunt. My name is Adam, and this is about you guys, your journey in music and how you got to where you are now. 6 (3m 25s): Awesome. 4 (3m 27s): Sweet. So first off you guys are siblings. I take from what I read is this true story. I've known a Wikipedia get me in the past. So I just wanted to clarify, but I'm just kidding us. So siblings whose older Macs or older. Okay. Okay. Very cool. And, well, how did you both get into music? Is there, is your family musical at all? Or 6 (3m 56s): They're not musicians, but music was definitely a big part of our childhood growing up. They really were interested in us like taking when we were really young, they put us in like piano lessons and stuff like that. And music we've always been surrounded by music. They were a huge hip hop fans and nineties rock fans and stuff like that. So we, we grew up on that shit. 4 (4m 16s): Yeah, sure. Why not? Right on, so you piano lessons, you said early on to where both of you in piano lessons. 6 (4m 23s): Yeah, we both started like when we were young in piano lessons and I didn't really like want to do them when I was young. I didn't care very much. And eventually, like when she started singing, when we realized that like she could sing, I was like, well, I guess I should start taking this seriously. And I also picked up guitar at the same time and it kind of just came together like that. 7 (4m 46s): Yeah. So he was like doing nothing. I said he would just like sit on the stage with me and do nothing because I needed someone there, 6 (4m 56s): Her support animal. 7 (5m 1s): I was thinking he couldn't even look at me and he was facing the audience, but sitting on the stage and yeah. So then he started playing guitar. Cause we were like, this is fucking weird. 4 (5m 11s): Okay. So real quick. Well, I want to back up here. So you both were in piano lessons at separate times. Like, did you take it as a young kid, max and then Anastasia, you took it later in life there As far as, yeah. I mean like few years down the line in it, then you take it. Okay. Okay. And then around that time, two max, you started playing guitar. 6 (5m 33s): Yeah, exactly. Right around the time that we realized she could sing and she would make me like, sit on the stage. 4 (5m 39s): When did you learn? How, when did you learn that you could sing Anastasia? 7 (5m 42s): I don't know. I can sing. I was always singing. And then my dad kind of was trying to convince everyone that like, this is, this is more than just, 6 (5m 53s): I remember it probably worked. Like, he was like, He would hear her saying it and he was like, I think she could like really sick. And my mom, like not, she was like always a huge believer in us, but I think at the beginning, like she thought like I, to my daughter, like, I think she can sing because she's my daughter. Like, she didn't want to like convince herself that like, she was more, 7 (6m 21s): She was like, no, let's, 6 (6m 22s): Let's try it out. 4 (6m 25s): You put her, you went into voice lessons at that point then? 7 (6m 29s): Yeah. 4 (6m 30s): Okay. And were you singing? Just what other cover songs and like, where were these shows happening? Where you were on the stage? Max? 6 (6m 38s): They were happening mostly at coffee houses. Open mics. 4 (6m 42s): Oh, interesting. And you would just go what'd you covers, or you had your own songs at this point. 7 (6m 46s): At that point I was doing covers, but I wrote my first song when I was like nine. And honestly, like, it was like more 20 than rock. It was like 6 (6m 58s): Blues. I was like 7 (6m 60s): Country blues. 6 (7m 0s): It was very country country driven for some reason, which is funny because 7 (7m 4s): I'm supposed to be country. It was just like, you know how like songwriter songs are. That's just how I started. But most of my songs, like still to this day, start off as like blues songs, like blues belty 6 (7m 19s): Yeah, no, she writes like mostly like ballads and I think they 7 (7m 22s): A 6 (7m 22s): Little less country. 4 (7m 26s): I was going to say, I would let the records. I was listening to weren't country, but 7 (7m 31s): You don't touch it. That was just the first song I ever wrote had a little bit of country. Cause I was going through, 6 (7m 36s): We went to Nashville and we brought big art, my acoustic guitar. And like, we played like a couple of shows out there and then she came back and she was like, I just, 7 (7m 45s): She was wearing 6 (7m 45s): Suits and she was wearing cowboy hats. Yeah. It was like a couple of months, but she was super into it. 4 (7m 54s): Okay. Where you're from originally? Where Florida, what part of Florida? 6 (7m 59s): South, Florida. 4 (8m 0s): South Florida. What's it like growing up there? Was there a lot of music? I mean flourish, huge. And there's like pockets of where big bands of came out of, but okay. So 6 (8m 10s): We're from Boka, which is where Marilyn Manson's from. 4 (8m 12s): Oh nice. 6 (8m 14s): And we, we kind of grew up around music because my parents were like, they're not musicians, but they were there's some of their best friends were, were musicians who were in like the local, like Fort Lauderdale music scene. 7 (8m 28s): Well, our mom's best friend is our basis. Now. 6 (8m 31s): She wasn't our basis, 7 (8m 33s): Our basis. Then she was our manager then Different bands down there. So they were all like, our parents were involved in the music scene before us, 6 (8m 43s): The person, our basis, Nat smallish. She, she was the person at that point who like, after she had, she was in a couple bands and then she stopped doing music for a little while and actually pretty good amount of time. She stopped doing music for, and in the, in between, she was like, I kind of want to, like, she was managing a couple of like local bands, us being one of them. And she kind of helped us like get the whole beginning of our career started. And then once we found out that we were going on tour with palai, we were actually like, without a basis at that point. And she was like, well, we were like, you got to do it. And so she, she just jumped in and she's been our basis since then. Yeah. 4 (9m 21s): Wow. Okay. Well I want to go back. Okay. So Florida real quick. So when do you come to Nashville where you re songwriting at this time? Or was this just like a family trip? I'm in Nashville area, but I'm so new to it. So I'm just curious, like, was this a trip here for like music or was it just 7 (9m 37s): At this time? 6 (9m 39s): Oh, really close friend who lived out there and we would go there like a lot. We would just go visit there. It was like one of our main places when we got away, we would go to Nashville. 4 (9m 47s): Oh, okay. Cool. It wasn't like you were traveling here to like record a record or something like that. 7 (9m 52s): Let me play shows out there. 4 (9m 54s): Okay. 6 (9m 55s): There's the one place it's like in a hotel and it's like a famous open mic venue. Can't remember, 8 (10m 1s): Turn any day into a parte with amazing cocktails made with Stella Rosa wines, like the tropical Stella Rosa Rita mixed Stella Rosa pineapple with orange liquor, tequila, guava juice and lime juice. Shake. What your mama gave you. Then pour over ice and enjoy. Find more delicious drink recipes@stellarosawines.com slash cocktails, Stella bright, responsibly. 10 (10m 30s): Welcome to total wine and more. I'm looking for a whiskey. You'll love this one. 11 (10m 36s): Wow. 10 (10m 39s): Find what you love, love what you find at total wine and more drink responsibly be 21. 12 (10m 47s): This is the year of change changing for the better for 130 years. Strayer university has been a champion of change, like preparing women for the workforce since the early 19 hundreds or offering online classes in the nineties when others were still exploring the internet because that's how we build a better future. So here's the change, changing how we learn, changing how we work and changing the future of education. Learn more@strayer.edu. Strayer university is certified to operate in Virginia by Chev. 6 (11m 17s): And we also went to the Bluebird one time. 4 (11m 19s): Oh wow. Yeah. That's cool. That's really cool. Okay. So once you start playing Anastasia and you're playing these coffee shops at this point, are you playing guitar with her yet? Or you're not playing guitar with her right, max, but you can play guitar. 6 (11m 32s): So we, when we went to Nashville, I was already playing with her and stuff, but we were like, 4 (11m 37s): Prior to that, when, when she was doing those coffee shops, like early on, when you 6 (11m 40s): Said, 7 (11m 42s): We asked, like, we have videos of him like playing guitar at those shows to the shows, without him with him just sitting on the stage where like short-lived as well. That was like a year A year, probably like four or five shows that he would sit there. 6 (11m 58s): And then we did like, 4 (11m 60s): And it was just because you just wanted the comfort up there. 6 (12m 6s): Like maybe people at the coffee house turn around while she's saying shy. 4 (12m 10s): That's awesome. Can you guys turn around? 7 (12m 14s): I have no people in it. Yeah, it was don't look at me. Don't look at me. 4 (12m 19s): That's funny 6 (12m 25s): And heard. He looked like a little baby. Like she looked like an actual baby. 4 (12m 31s): Well, that takes a lot of courage. I mean, at any age to get up there, especially at a coffee shop when no one, I mean, it's, it's just, that's a terrifying thing. 7 (12m 39s): When I got up there, I was, I was belting it out. I was fucking going. 6 (12m 44s): I think that that's a big part of why you're not shy. I think it's the biggest part of why you're not shy anymore. You found that like through music, through performing, 4 (12m 53s): Did you have any like max, just being the older brother, did you want to play in the band with your sister? I mean, I don't know if the weird question, but I was just curious, like maybe you were like, eh, I don't really want to do that. I want to play with my friends or whatever. 6 (13m 4s): I don't know. I never like, really like, thought about it. I was kind of just like, we get it like once or twice and then it was just like that way forever. It was weird. Like it kinda never like, felt like there was any like question, right? Like it kind of just happened. And then The other thing was we like loved the white stripes. So we were like, this is the coolest thing ever. 4 (13m 28s): All right. Okay, cool. And when do you start writing songs? Like how, like in what? So the band forms, what, how many years? Like pre like a few years later, like tell me the PR the progress of like going from coffee shop to then you joining his guitar player, piano player, and then where it kind of led from there. 6 (13m 46s): Yeah. We, we started, we did like open mikes and covers and stuff like that. And we started introducing some songs that we both wrote into the set a little bit. By the time you were like 11 and then, and then the songs that we actually ended up playing, it became like hot songs. When we added like a drummer that'll happen when she was 12. 4 (14m 5s): Wow. 7 (14m 8s): We were playing out at real venues when I was 12. 6 (14m 10s): Yeah. And we spent, for some reason, like we waited like three years to Rick. We tried like a couple of times with different producers to like record a record. And it failed miserably because everybody wanted to like, make her do this 7 (14m 24s): All at black was written when I was 12. 4 (14m 26s): Really. Whoa. Okay. So you're writing these songs at 12 and every time you'd go into a studio, they'd be like, no, you should do this pop song and 6 (14m 37s): Whatever, take her songs and turn them into. That was even worse. 7 (14m 41s): It was like a year of going to different for like two years and going to different people at different studios that, that all did the same thing. 6 (14m 49s): It was weird. And it was, and we had people like trying to like lock us into these weird contracts and stuff. Like producers, They're trying to kind of take advantage of like what they could do with the project. And we kind of just like said, fuck that. And we just waited for a while until like the right guy came along and we kept hearing his name, Josh Diaz. And then I, we like, co-produced the record together. Me and him and I was when we made the record, you were like 14. And so like, 7 (15m 20s): I don't know. 6 (15m 21s): Yeah. It was like 8, 17, 18. 7 (15m 23s): Yeah. 4 (15m 24s): That's so crazy. You guys you're playing shows at 12 and you're at 15 max. 6 (15m 29s): Yeah, exactly. I 4 (15m 30s): Mean, that's still so young. You, both of you so young to be playing, 6 (15m 34s): We would play like, we have like a lot of the shows where like on weekdays and stuff and we would just, we went to the same school and so we would like go, we would like leave school, drive to Miami. Cause that's where the main scene was at that time. It's moved up now, Fort Lauderdale, Boca now like have their own scenes. But back then it was Miami and we were playing like Churchill's, which I don't know if you've ever heard of it, but it's like, we're mailed Madison, like made his bones, playing that. And then he was like the grimy CBGB, like Miami 4 (16m 1s): Really I've read man, man, like his books. But I don't, it's been so many years. I don't recall. Yeah. 6 (16m 6s): And I don't even know if he referenced it, but it is like, like known in the area that like Marilyn Manson used to play there and it was like, wow. 7 (16m 13s): I would play down there too. I would have to play and then get out. 4 (16m 17s): Oh yeah. I bet. And could you say, I mean, even at 15, he probably couldn't stay in. 6 (16m 22s): I don't care as much about me. I think they were worried about the liability with her being like, she looked like an actual child. 4 (16m 30s): You're not really 12. Wow. It's Marilyn Manson. Is he like a big deal? I mean, I would imagine like, so people know that he, you know, was born and raised there and was playing these venues there. Is it like a pretty cool, I mean, known thing. 6 (16m 49s): So it'll be like acknowledges and talks about, but then also doesn't like, he doesn't choose to claim south Florida very much. So it's not one of those things that's like, so well-known, and that's why a lot of people, it's only people that like played her to those who even might care about it. I feel With the high school that like we were zoned for and everything 4 (17m 10s): Really cause he grew up with his grandparents. Right. He grew up his grandparents' house. That's so nuts. So wow. But you guys didn't end up going to that school? 6 (17m 23s): No, we didn't. We went to like a smaller school, But ended like a lot of like bands that we're friends with down here now and stuff like that. They all went to it's called Boca high. 7 (17m 33s): We went to a small school that was like really flexible with like me touring and leaving for a year. My sophomore year. 6 (17m 40s): Even when we weren't touring, we went to school like two days a week and like piled all of our classes into those days. And we did everything else all the other days were 4 (17m 51s): That's amazing. Yeah. That's makes sense. I mean, if you're a band starting to do stuff and you guys are 12 to 15 and as it kind of progresses, it's like, you know, why are we going to, are we going to go to school five days a week? And how are you doing? 6 (18m 3s): And they were super great with like working with us with it, although we didn't think she was, but she did 4 (18m 9s): Congratulations. 6 (18m 11s): We're going to be on time. 7 (18m 13s): We had so much work from the fucking 6 (18m 16s): A year that she had to take off, essentially because right through the school year, period of the year where we went on three tours with Palle Royal, we went to Europe with them twice. And then we went to, we did the U S and Canada run with them Like right in the middle of the year, like what sophomore year? 4 (18m 35s): Oh, wow. I want to get somebody like how that progress kind of happened. I have one more quick. My last Marilyn Manson question is, do they acknowledge that he actually went to that school? Or is it kind of like this thing where they it's like, oh, this, you know, bat, like, we don't want to like reference the fact that Marilyn Manson attended the school. 6 (18m 52s): I think, I don't know. I didn't go there, but everybody who goes there acknowledges that it's a pretty like famous person that went there. No, it's the only like famous person that went there and Rhonda, she went to a private school, 4 (19m 5s): But she grew up in the area too. She grew 6 (19m 6s): Up in Boca. Yeah. 4 (19m 7s): Oh, that's cool. That's great. From Eric Ariella grotty to Marilyn Manson, they just have this picture of Marilyn Manson on the wall. That'd be pretty amazing. 6 (19m 18s): I don't think they, you know, he's not like a quarterback. 4 (19m 21s): They don't smile. They don't have his t-shirt hanging in the, okay, well get back. Let's get back to you guys. So you start recording or the band really kind of starts with 1215 and then you didn't record a record until you're 14 in what? 19 18, 19. 7 (19m 42s): We're recording all those years, but like nothing ever released because it was 4 (19m 45s): All of that pop reference. Okay. And then, so tell me, like, when do you get these tour offers and like, how does it kind of jump to the next level? 6 (19m 55s): So everything kind of happens. We jumped to the next level. We were called anesthesia max at that time and we released the EAP under that name. And then we did a little like record store tour. We did that twice, actually two years in a row, one time before the record. And the one time right after the first CP came out, 4 (20m 12s): Where were you touring? Just up and now Florida 6 (20m 16s): East coast, all the way up to New York. We did a couple shows and we did Nashville and we did New York and we did Louisville. And like, we just kind of like a mostly east coast run-up of the coast and back. And then 13 (20m 31s): Hi, I'm Flo from progressive being a baseball fanatic, like me can be stressful. It's not all sports points and touchdowns. So progressive is going to help you take your mind off your team for a moment, instead of thinking about how they miss that gold point score. Think about the name, your price tool from progressive letting you choose coverage options based on your, unlike your team that missed the end zone net area. Well, anyway, hope this distraction about Progressive's name, your price tool was helpful. It sure kept me from thinking about all those penalty balls. Yeah. He's boards, 12 (20m 58s): Progressive 1 (20m 58s): Casualty insurance company and affiliates, price and coverage limited by state law. 12 (21m 2s): This is the year of change changing for the better for 130 years. Strayer university has been a champion of change, like preparing women for the workforce since the early 19 hundreds or offering online classes in the nineties when others were still exploring the internet because that's how we build a better future. So here's the change. Changing how we learn changing, how we work and changing the future of education. Learn more@strayer.edu. Strayer university is certified to operate in Virginia by Chev. 4 (21m 32s): Hey, everyone. We wanted to tell you about another music podcast that we've been loving. The broken record podcast from Pushkin industries, music industry icon, Rick Rubin, along with producer, Justin Richmond and authors, Malcolm Gladwell, and Bruce Headlands. Sit down with the artists you love for unparalleled creative insight into your favorite music. You'll hear revealing interviews with some of the most legendary figures in music like Neil young, Andre, 3000 Alicia keys and Bruce Springsteen. And you'll learn about up and coming stars like Michelle Zonar, who talks about her big plans for her dreaming indie pop band, Japanese breakfast. This April, they're celebrating the red hot chili peppers, new album with John for Shantay Anthony Kiedis flee and Chad Smith, all in conversation with Rick Rubin. 4 (22m 20s): They share stories and songs from the new album, and also never before heard insights about their decades, long dynamic and chemistry, listen to broken record wherever you get podcasts. 6 (22m 32s): S we, we, something happened at one of those pianos shows in New York, which is a venue. And 7 (22m 41s): Does that change anything for anyone? 4 (22m 43s): I didn't look like it. 6 (22m 46s): Something happened at one of those shows when we picked up like some like consultant type managers at that point. Oh, 4 (22m 52s): What do you mean? Something happened? You just 7 (22m 58s): Show 6 (22m 59s): A bunch of family in New York or our parents are actually from New York. So we have a lot of family there. And so we have one of these, like one of these, we call these two guys and they were like consulting for us. And they, one of them knew 7 (23m 13s): Had worked with them in the past, had worked with, 6 (23m 15s): They knew Pele and auntie like basically just like call them and ask them if like they would take us home torque. And they were, we went to work toward the last work tour show ever was in west Palm beach, Florida. So we went and we met them there and we talked and then they took us on both runs that we actually were like, w thought we were only going to do to Europe home with them. And then we did Europe and north America with them. No, 7 (23m 38s): I think it was so casual. Like we ended the, we ended the last 6 (23m 42s): North American 7 (23m 43s): North American run and like they were walking away, like getting on their bus and they were like, we'll see you on the next tour. Right. The Remington we'll see you in Europe. Right. 6 (23m 54s): Yeah. And so he like, and then they just took us again. 14 (23m 59s): Wow. 4 (24m 0s): That's incorrect. Just off there. That's really cool to hear a band that, that is that cool. Like, oh yeah. We'll take them. Why not with the success that they have, you know? 6 (24m 9s): And especially in Europe, like we were the only support on that tour. 14 (24m 13s): Wow. 6 (24m 14s): So that was like an incredible opportunity. And it really like gave us our little jumpstart and that, and right before that tour is when we switched the name over to the hot and we, you know, and then we came back from those tours. We started recording the, the social intercourse CP. We flew out to Phoenix and recorded that with Matt. Good. And over the course of the pandemic, we just released that. And now we're working on like a full length record, Came back from a tour with the hu of north America and Canada. And we're leaving in like 30 days for another run with them. As 4 (24m 52s): I saw. You're actually, I'm from San Diego originally, you guys are playing Humphreys. I saw on your tour list. Yeah. I think it is. Which is hilarious because they're, they're ha you know, the, who are heavy. Right. I mean, they're band and you guys are like, you're pretty heavy too. And then when it comes to like, that venue is like known for like, it's more of like a yacht rock venue. I feel like they're like, no, but it's a, it's a beautiful venue. I mean, it's on the bay in San Diego. Like you're, you're the literally on, you'll be on the stage and to the right. It's just like with the water and boats, like, you're that close? Yeah. It's outside. It's like, you're outside. It's so dope. 4 (25m 33s): But it's just funny because people that have a lot of money that have their boats there will like come out and they'll depending on who, I mean, like Ringo, Starr's played there and like different people, Tom petty, like they'll come over and like watch and cause you can see like, you know, pretty directly onto the stage. And like just the fact that there's bigger and heavier bands playing at this venue. Now, it was just funny for me to look and see, but I was looking at other bands that were coming there and I'm like, okay, well I get it. Like it fits now with the tour. But it's just funny to think, like when I lived there and when shows would come through there, it was never a show like that. That would ever, 6 (26m 12s): It sounds like a Tommy Bahama, 4 (26m 15s): No legit. That's what it is. That's what it reminds me. So that's just cool that you guys are playing there. I thought that was awesome. Yeah. 6 (26m 22s): Yeah. We've played a really cool, like interesting venues with them. We played, you know, as a rock band, we're like a more traditional type of rock band than they are. We put on with the show and you know, we it's the, but it's a band. And so they are more comfortable playing in like more strange venues. I feel like for this like seated theaters. And that was something we had to do. 7 (26m 43s): It's like a whole, Like, I don't know. 4 (26m 48s): Well, yeah, this venue is like, is seated in the sense that like, it's like these, you know, regular, just like lawn chair type, not lawn chairs, the chairs that you'd sit at, like a wedding, you know what I mean? Like those that are like kind of lined up, they do like a ward stuff there. And it's just, it's cool that you guys are playing there. I mean, don't get me wrong. It's just so funny to see these like certain bands that are playing that venue. I would have never guessed in a million years. 6 (27m 15s): And we, we bought that way. A couple of shows when we came on the first couture, like we, we were like, I I've never imagined that we would be playing a seated theater and some of those see that theaters, like people aren't allowed to stand up. Like you stand up, like people ushers will tell you to sit down. And so like, we had to like adjust. It was, it was a weird thing because people still really enjoyed the show. And it's weird because you can't tell 4 (27m 39s): Sometimes 6 (27m 40s): Sitting in the, in the, the, the atmosphere of a theater is like more like a, as opposed to like a screen and go crazy kind of thing. But everybody was buying merch and like, it was still really awesome 7 (27m 52s): At the ones that they'd have to be seated. There was still like hand movements, anything like that. That was like waist up. 4 (28m 1s): I think, I don't know that maybe they've changed it up though. They must, maybe you can S they'll just move, move the chairs. I mean, I don't know. 6 (28m 9s): <inaudible>, there's a bunch of venues at this size that they can like remove the chairs. 4 (28m 14s): Yeah. Like I said, they just started just like wedding seats. Like they have to like physically go out and put into like rows, but it wouldn't make it wouldn't, I wouldn't be shocked if it was just like open grass and people could just do what they're going to do, but it's a, I mean, it's a coolest spot. You're gonna, you guys would be like, whoa, like this is really rad. Cause I mean, you're literally looking at the ocean from the side of the stage. So Yeah. I did see that as well. So that's amazing. Well, yeah, I want to get to that tour, but I'm I'm I want to talk to you guys about that first tour go into you did Europe is the, on the first tour. Right. And like w what it means your parents have to go with you. 4 (28m 54s): You must have been young. Right? I mean, to Jump on a tour like that. 6 (29m 0s): Yeah. Our mom, that's what, she was 15 when we went on that tour. So our mom came with us and it was Europe. So like, my dad wanted to come too. So They both went on. 4 (29m 9s): Oh yeah. My kid was doing it. 6 (29m 13s): Yeah. Right on our north American runs. Yeah. Our mom usually just comes with devil fly. 4 (29m 21s): Oh, sure. Okay. But that's rad. I mean, to come out to European, I mean, how do you ever been to Europe before? 6 (29m 26s): Only? I, we have been to Iceland for new years, one time. And I was 7 (29m 33s): Like, I was just saying, 6 (29m 41s): Oh, that was 4 (29m 42s): That's. So like, yeah. I can't even imagine, like going to a whole different con like different countries and you're, you're playing all these shows, especially they must've been huge rooms where those are probably the biggest shows you had ever played at this point. 6 (29m 53s): Yeah. Well, at that point, a a hundred percent and we, and there's a few, like the one that we played in, like the UK that, that are like, that's still probably the biggest show we've ever played was when we ended the last tour with the UK, I think it was like 2,500 people or something like that. 4 (30m 6s): Wow. 6 (30m 7s): A lot of the, who venues are, are, are similar in size to those now. And so, but yeah, I think that one was still the biggest and it was supposed to be booked for in London. I was supposed to be booked for this. When you call it cocoa, where like ironic on day did her release show. And it's a pretty like famous venue, but it was about to collapse. So they had to move the show and we had to like move our plane tickets, plaintiffs. So it was like a whole process, But yeah, we were able to like play this even bigger venue. And they were able to expand the tickets even more. And, 7 (30m 38s): But even our first show that we played with Pele, like their fans are diehard Colt fans. They didn't, we thought like, oh, they don't know us. Like, we'll have to like win them over. But like the first show we played was in cologne Berlin. The first time we played was in Berlin, the first one we ever played with Pele and like, everyone was singing the words to our song. And like, it was Like, just because we were associated with 4 (31m 7s): That's like the 1975 fans are pretty quick, pretty similar. Like, they'll do a lot of research on the opening acts and know all of their stuff, which is rad. Not, not a whole lot of bands. Fans will do that too. You know, research the openers, which I think is so cool. 6 (31m 22s): Yeah. Then they do an next 75 is cool too, because they like, almost always ended up, he almost always ends up signing the bands that he takes on tour with him. 4 (31m 29s): Right. Right. Exactly. So you come back from Europe, then you do a, you send a north American run with them and another European run. 6 (31m 38s): And then we did, yeah. We had like two weeks in between. And then we did north America with them. And that was like 60 days. Like the actual tourism, 7 (31m 45s): He came over Christmas. And then we left again in February, I think. Or like, 4 (31m 50s): Wow. And then where were you when the pandemic hits? When does that happen? Were you on tour? 6 (31m 56s): No, we were home. We had, we had, where are we going? Oh yeah, we were, yeah. We were about to play south by Southwest, 4 (32m 8s): South by Southwest. Okay. Yeah. I remember that got canceled. That was like, oh, this is like some serious stuff 6 (32m 14s): Happening. 4 (32m 16s): NBA, Tom Hanks, south by Southwest. And then it was a problem. 6 (32m 24s): We, we had just played a show opening for red jumpsuit apparatus, north Florida. And then we had all of our stuff and we were literally ready to just leave from there to go to Texas. 7 (32m 34s): We played that show. There was like one case, like 6 (32m 39s): Was kind of like Joe, it was a meat. Like everybody was just joking about it. 4 (32m 44s): Yeah. I remember when I like first there was an article that said like, Corona virus comes from Corona beer or does not come from drinking Corona beer or something like that. And at that point, I'm like, what the hell are they talking about? And like, weeks later it was like, oh, okay. This is, this is like, yeah. 6 (33m 4s): And then we 15 (33m 8s): Educational 16 (33m 10s): Learn a new trick. 15 (33m 11s): Yeah. The trick to a happy, fulfilling life. Maybe I learned the mountain air unleashes my inner peace and rip and Powell or the whole cruise all. Ooh. And this is spontaneous joy. 16 (33m 23s): Okay. That's nice. 17 (33m 26s): The icon pass, lets you do you@fiftydestinationsworldwidefromtwofortynineadultdropinfornextwinternowandsaveiconpass.com, 18 (33m 37s): American corn farmers, a proud and chosen profession, inspired through generations, tested resilient and committed to giving back as much as they're growing, pushing the boundaries of what's possible with every bushel while replenishing every increasingly precious resource, like the reduction of soil loss by 40% with every acre grown in a world where sustainability matters more than ever, we need to all the help we can get. And there's no greater resource than the capable hands of American corn farmers 8 (34m 7s): Turn any day into a parte with amazing cocktails made with Stella Rosa wines, like the tropical Stella Rosa Rita mixed Stella Rosa pineapple with orange liquor, tequila, guava juice and lime juice shake. What your mama gave you then pour over ice and enjoy, find more delicious drink recipes. That's Delarosa wines.com/cocktails, Stella bright, responsibly. 6 (34m 37s): We had an album already recorded the social intercourse album. 4 (34m 41s): So that was finished. That was finished prior. 6 (34m 44s): Okay. We've mastered. And we were kind of just waiting to release it. And we were like, we're not going to like, you know, they said two weeks, right. So we're like, we're not going to release it. And it was like a month and it was two months and everybody's like, okay, this is not going away. And so we just put a game plan together during the pandemic to slowly release the record so that we could, you know, have more engagement and talk with our audience and like start to like, you know, open back up to them again about what we're doing. And we made like, we had to go through like crazy COVID protocols to make like music videos for the, for the songs, like tiny little crews. And we were able to some of the music videos we literally made in our living room 4 (35m 20s): Because really? 6 (35m 21s): Yeah. And there was like, like we were taking it super seriously, but then our drummer, Nick, his family was like on super locked down And we were, we were like on lockdown. Like we were where we were not like 4 (35m 35s): <inaudible> No, I see. Yeah. People were just taking it a little bit more serious 7 (35m 44s): Because our house is already me, him, my mom, our dad. And we have like his girlfriend. I had a boyfriend at the time and it was like all in one house. 4 (35m 56s): We're 7 (35m 56s): All in the same bubble. Our cousin y'all our tour manager was with us for a while. Cause he couldn't go back 6 (36m 1s): After south, after south by Southwest was canceled. He was with us and we weren't going to send him to the place where COVID was the worst go home to the walking dead and LA. 4 (36m 10s): Oh, he was in LA. Okay. Yeah. Wow. 6 (36m 13s): We 7 (36m 13s): Were, so we were in one house. 6 (36m 18s): This is from San Diego. You might not have something like this, but like in Florida we have hurricane parties 4 (36m 24s): And it's like, we didn't have that. 6 (36m 26s): So like it's like a thing, especially in Florida, it's a thing. And it, and like you, because of how it goes out and like, you know, everybody kind of just like comes together in one place and you're just like lock the house down and you're just chilling. Like you just kinda like you drank for a couple of days. Yeah. But that was like our entirety of 20, 20. 7 (36m 50s): Yeah. We didn't go out of our bubble. We kept those people and then no one was allowed to leave. We sent him out to the grocery store. 6 (36m 57s): I didn't go 7 (36m 57s): Out for like, probably like six months. No, I go like two o'clock or something, but I didn't go out. 4 (37m 4s): Oh my gosh. 6 (37m 5s): Yeah. In the front yard with like two fires, it was 95 degrees outside. 4 (37m 14s): Well that's yeah. I mean, knowing I've never like living in Florida having that many hurricanes, like that's insane. You have a hurricane parties just like, know that it's coming and then you just go, okay, well we'll wait it out. Like 6 (37m 28s): Now look more and more like it's way less dangerous in Florida. There's like better. Like the houses are made to code now where like things are like there. And most people that I know are either have like a really easy shutter system or they have like hurricane, like these are hurting glass windows 4 (37m 44s): And 6 (37m 45s): You barely, you can literally sit here, Like watch, watch it. And people like, it's such a common thing in Florida that like, people are just like, you know, they're just 7 (37m 57s): After 6 (37m 58s): Spring. Yeah. It's about to be hurricane season. 4 (37m 60s): Oh my, yeah, they did. Well, it's weird. Cause here in Tennessee they said there's going to be smelling like on Saturday and it's it's like 60. Yeah. It's like perfect outside. I'm like, what do you mean through the snow? And like, I guess some storms coming through. I dunno if it'll hit you guys in Florida, but I'll actually be in Florida on Saturday. We're going to Orlando, My family and my wife and my kids are we're going to go to universal studios. So We went to Disney before and yeah. And so this summer we're going do universal, but yeah. That's awesome. So it's just crazy. The hurricane thing is just like weather is to me is so crazy now because San Diego doesn't really get much weather at all. 4 (38m 42s): It's always just like overcast looking and like 70 and then like here now there's like tornadoes and snow and rain and everything else. And then thinking like, you guys have to hit deal with hurricanes to the point where like, you're like, oh, this is normal. We've got hurricane windows. We're good. 6 (38m 58s): A couple of weeks back or a couple of months back now. Like we experienced our first earthquake. Oh my 7 (39m 2s): God. April. 4 (39m 8s): Okay. Yeah. I have, I've dealt with quite a few earthquakes in my day, but yeah, but those are so few and far between I've never been in a bad one. Yeah. 7 (39m 14s): I never experienced that. And we thought a car crashed into the garage at the house 6 (39m 20s): And it felt like me and my, me and my neck were like sleeping in the bed together. You know how, And then, but I thought he was like shaking me to wake me up. That's how 7 (39m 36s): I went. And I immediately started crying. Like I had never experienced anything like that. 4 (39m 43s): Yeah. It's pretty wild. I get it. Especially if you don't know what's happening, it's just like, whoa, what 6 (39m 51s): Hurricanes? Like you don't even like, it's like a thunder Thunder, Your house every now and then like a coconut, 4 (40m 0s): So well, okay. So you guys help, you had the record done and you just wet held onto it for awhile and then slowly released it and it's out now, obviously the new EPA. 6 (40m 9s): Yeah. So we like, we were sitting on it and then like I'll said our management team at the time. Yeah. We were waiting to release it so that we could tour it pours happening anytime soon. And there was no vaccine at that point and it didn't look, it looked grim. So we were just like, might as well put the music out there. There'll be another record by the time it's time to tour. And cause we were working on a lot of music for this record that we are finishing up now. Yeah. We were just like, let's just start releasing it. And so yeah, we kind of, we just started with, It'd be like a full year since we did the first DP and then we did two singles and then we were just waiting and we're like, we can't be any longer. 6 (40m 53s): Like we have to put stuff out. So we started putting all the songs on the EPE, out of singles and made some like COVID friendly music videos and everything kind of like started. It really started to like, no one was releasing music at that point, which was really cool. Cause it was like an open world for us to just like release music into and All pressed picked up our, our for first release and Yeah, it was, it was really cool. And we were able to like start to like really start building our audience back up again for, you know, when the world opened back up and then you're just committed at that point I had just learned production and me and our drummer produced like half the songs on the, for this new record that's coming out and we did half the songs with Kevin Thrasher and our manager breaded freeze and did a couple of songs on the record too. 4 (41m 42s): That's amazing. That's amazing. And one day in the record is you said it was, it's not done yet, but it's almost finished. 6 (41m 48s): It's basically done. We have like a couple last things to tie up, but it's, it's pretty close. 4 (41m 53s): Yeah. Very cool. That's exciting. 6 (41m 55s): Yeah. We're super excited about it. W we can't, we can't wait. 7 (41m 58s): This is definitely my favorite thing that we've done 4 (42m 2s): For sure. Are you guys playing any of the songs on the road or no? 6 (42m 5s): Oh yeah. We're playing a couple of them. I think we're playing the complainant three. Yeah. Two of them. 7 (42m 18s): Three of them, 4 (42m 20s): Three of them. 6 (42m 21s): Oh sure. 4 (42m 25s): Three of them. Awesome. Well, yeah, the tour kicks off April 16th and you're playing San Diego Humphreys. It's so awesome. And then you're coming through here. I'm looking at your schedule now. It's a May 9th, May 9th, Canary ballroom. So that's 6 (42m 37s): Awesome for my birthday. 4 (42m 40s): When's your birthday. Oh, very cool. Yeah. So you'll be, yeah. Cause you're playing the night before and then you have a day off for your birthday and then it looks like you're Playing Louisville the next day. So awesome. Yeah. Let's all. Let's do something. So I'll definitely come to the show. That's awesome. And I appreciate you guys doing this interview. Thank you so much. Yeah. One more quick question. And I want to get answered from both of you if it's cool. I want to know if you have any advice for aspiring artists. 7 (43m 12s): You go first, but yes, we do have advice 6 (43m 14s): And learn to do as many things for your own music as possible. Like when we were able, we were super blind, we loved the records that we made with Josh Diaz and we loved the record that we made with Matt. Good. But we, oh. And every, all the producers that I've co-produced with and people that have produced for us. But when you learn to be able to fully control every facet of your music, like just the artist side of it, at least it's so freeing to be able to be like, I know what I want this to sound like, and I'm just going to record it. I'm just going to make it happen. That's like my biggest advice. I feel like we've made the biggest jump in our music recently. And I think that's why is because we have been able to have a little bit more control over what the end product is. 7 (43m 59s): You honestly kind of stolen Because having control I'm actually going to just, can I just expand on that? 4 (44m 5s): No, you're not allowed. Of course. 7 (44m 8s): Yeah. But don't how about like this? Don't like, don't let anyone try to control what your sound is. Like when we were young and starting out, I feel like people were trying to tell us like, do you really know what you want? But we definitely didn't know what we want. And we are at now, which is amazing. So there's something that just, yeah. You know what you want. You just got to find it and stick to it.